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Do you believe there is value in suffering?

Posted on Jan 16th, 2009 by rudyan : quasar rudyan
This is in Response to the Questions and Reflections for January 11, 2009:

For many years I believed suffering was God’s punishment for wrong-doing or -being and had to be endured. After a while it occurred to me that I invented my own suffering, perhaps originally to punish myself for being *bad* (or different), for my seeming inability to fit into the mold that was set out for me to grow up in. Suffering was both penance and indulgence, in a manner of speaking. I hated it and somehow welcomed it at the same time.

It seems to me that the value in suffering is in its role as an arrow, its straight, true, honest way of pointing me in the direction where I should look if I want to understand my pain, to heal myself: You’re suffering? Look here (where you feel it). When I observe closely my own suffering, I see that it’s nudging me to move, to get off my position (literally and/or figuratively), to get unstuck. But only if I want to be whole. And in a way I have to make friends with the pain, not wallow in it, not indulge (in) it, not use it for my own ends.

You know quite well, deep within you, that there is only a single magic, a single power, a single salvation - and that is called loving. Well, then, love your suffering. Do not resist it, do not flee from it. It is your aversion that hurts, nothing else. (Hermann Hesse)

Tears in Heaven


For me,  this question is partly about whether I believe in my own pain. When I really look at it, I’d say, no, I don’t. Even as I’m suffering it, I see it as an illusion of sorts, a means to an end maybe; I see it as self-imposed in a way, as what I said above, a pointer. I don’t necessarily see other people’s pain that way. My way is my way, their way is theirs; I can really only speak for myself.


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Doug : Back Yard Artist
about 6 hours later
Doug said

I know from there it looks like suffering because I have a there that looks like that sometimes. But from here it looks like beauty. Aren’t you glad you have those eyes?
I am.

rudyan : quasar
about 14 hours later
rudyan said

…looks like suffering…sometimes. What a great way to put it. What we see when we look at a particular something is never the only way to see it. Reality, truth, are fluid.

Thank you, Doug!

Mila : love
2 days later
Mila said

Love is the answer! Wonderful answer and comments!

rudyan : quasar
2 days later
rudyan said

So right, Mila, thank you! Is there any other answer worth seeking?

Q:  What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything?

A:  42 LOVE!

(I guess strikeout doesn’t work in blog comments)

10 days later
LaurenGaia said

I agree with the huge importance of not wallowing in suffering, if we do this it becomes self-destructive and doesnt have the power of healing. Recognising our own self-wallowing and self-destruction can enable us to self-heal, yet we seem to inflict such suffering on ourselves again and again through out life. I think we have to see some value in suffering, if only because it would be an unbearable existence not to.

rudyan : quasar
10 days later
rudyan said

Yes, life can be pretty unbearable until we begin to see that wallowing keeps us stuck in suffering, and the only way out is to stop wallowing and start inquiring.

Thank you!

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